Clearing the Air

To Asuru, and anyone who'd like to comment. I spent quite some time drafting a reply to Asuru's comment in yet Another Log in Glitch, only to find the thread had been closed while I was typing Billyjim, thank you for your supportiveness. To paraphrase: Asuru, you admit you don't know a lot about networking, in fact several times you referenced how these were not your best areas of knowledge. You also sadly misrepresented what I had originally said, further revealing your lack of understanding. I dislike those who say "I am not being hostile" who then immediately go on a hostile attack or those who say "I may not know too much about this" then act like they know everything about it. Your own words reveal your lack of knowledge and understanding here.

First of all, you did not see my computer screen, the W3C validation data, or the code errors and event logs describing the gateway failures and errors as my tech tried to log into RC. I did, and she did, and you missed that I had emailed a screenshot of all that to RC/BP support tech so they could see what was going on. Nor did I say my errors were what was happening to everyone, like you imply. I only said here's what I found and maybe it will help with the overall situation. Be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem Asuru. By the way, my computer technician is employed as such, has a college education that took several years to obtain (in computer information technology, html, networking, and several other field related skills). I was not saying I knew this, I was saying she did. I find it hard to believe you are more qualified than she. Maybe my wording was a bit off, but then, that is why the screenshots were attached to the email to support.

Second, if you think I don't know the difference between RAM and passive memory (storage) you are mistaken. But, then, did I say I had a terabyte RAM? No, I did not...I said my system had a terabyte of memory. When you have to change what I said to make yourself look smart and prove me "wrong", well that kind of speaks for itself now doesn't it? Also, there is a difference between daily cache dumps (clearing your browser cache of temporary history, cookies, etc.) and doing a cmd ipconfig/flushdns which is how you would create the server bandwith issue you describe; of course, flushing your dns resolver cache is not a daily thing but a last resort thing. You mix the two together in your admonishment, further revealing you just really don't know what you're talking about. Ok, so I got mixed up on my company names (Intell and AMD) that does not make it a false statement that I have a quad-core cpu of a very advanced type, now does it? That would be like saying because I said I ate a McDonald's Whopper when it's made by Burger King that means I did not eat a burger at all. Nor does it mean my evidence of the errors with my log in process is flawed evidence. Pouncing on a small language error (Intell vs AMD) like it makes the underlying facts being discussed less true, is called placing form over substance and doesn't hold up in courts of law, so it will not do in social discussion either. And there is nothing wrong with periodic defragmentation. Just because you don't like maintenance software and believe it unnecessary, does not mean it doesn't work or that nobody should use it.

Third, you refer to the html doctype that ensures compatibility with html5 also known as htmlP (and yes, my wording may be a bit off, but that's why I employ a computer technician now, isn't it?). Funny, ironic even, that IF you'd been there to see the coding and error logs I sent in to support, you'd have known THAT was missing from the coding! This was part of why the gateway kept failing: it looked for that program to resolve an error, could not find it, kept looping until it timed out and broke the connection. Sloppy layman's description, true. But again, I note: evidence speaks better than words, which is why I attached the physical evidence and sent it to people who both could understand it and use it to help fix the problem.
You call doing so, and making others aware of it, spreading bad advice? Look at what you said and what I said, and be honest, why don't you? Frankly, I have little patience for pseudo-intellectuals and argument for the sake of argument. I work for lawyers, and and believe in proof, evidence, and accuracy. Please note, I (unlike you) will not tell you to stop exercising your right to freely express yourself...but if you want to tell me to stop mine, get your facts and evidence in order first and please know what you are actually talking about.

 

See, this is why we need PMs.

Really, was not being hostile. If you feel that way it's on you. I point it out because people tend to take anything that counters their idea as an attack even if it is only an observation or statement. You seem pretty hostile yourself.

Never said your info on DOCTYPES was wrong, just that I didn't think it was the case. Not blaming you for that at all. Not saying your technician is wrong, but having a degree doesn't mean you are always right either. But consider, that if a DOCTYPE were missing, and that were the problem, why can I log in? Obviously my browser is communicating correctly. So maybe the page is in HTML5? As it doesn't need one anyway, it missing wouldn't matter.

'Memory' alone can signify both RAM and disk storage. A lot of people still don't know the difference between types and use one word for both. When used alone, it almost always signifies RAM. You would make it sound like it actually had some bearing on something regarding this game, which it doesn't, considering that it appears to indeed be non-volatile, as I assumed.

I didn't mix clearing cache and dns flushing at all. You said you clear your cache everyday, I'm just saying there isn't a need to, generally.

And here, you're really making yourself look bad. You tell me that I don't know really know what I'm talking about, but then you go and insist that Intel Phenom is a thing. It isn't. I know full well that Intel and AMD are companies that make CPUs, and the Phenom family is made by AMD, not Intel. You're right, I don't know what is in your machine, other than what you told us, which includes an inexistent CPU.

Never said maintenance and such software wasn't needed. I maintain my computer. I know magnetic storage needs to be defragged. Only said that defragging RAM was useless, and could be considered a scam. I honestly can't believe RAM defraggers still exist. But hey, people believe in stranger things.

I don't know networking, but I know how to build a computer myself. It would appear that you don't, so I was just trying to demystify some of this for you, and hopefully keep you and others from getting caught up in needless things. Besides, I said networking wasn't my strong point: that doesn't mean I'm incompetent with it. That's also the only thing that I mentioned not knowing as much about.

I believe in proof, evidence, and accuracy too. Funny that. I'm not saying you must stop saying things, I simply requested that you stop telling people to defrag their RAM. This is a casual game; a lot of people here obviously don't know much about computers. Flame me all you want, just looks like you're trying to turn it back onto me, especially considering that it seems you didn't really get what I said. Really, you're contradicting yourself all-over. I actually do know what I'm talking about.

Anyway, I'm done with this. I really wasn't trying to make an argument.

 

Again you quote me wrong: I never told anyone to defrag their RAM or told anyone to defrag for that matter. What I said from the very beginning was that I do, and that obviously MY error wasn't either the cache or memory (in that case RAM) causing game lag or load failure. You also misquote my reference to MY computer saying that log in attempt found the html translator missing among other errors. I never said others (like you) had the same thing happening, only that some might also be experiencing this issue among all the log in issues. And of course, that I insist the Intel Phenom is a "thing" when I clarified that by admitting I got my companies confused but still had a quad-core cpu. Therefore admitting the "nonexistent" cpu (you say) is in fact an existing one I just misunderstood which company made it. And you did make an argument...no matter how you flower up your words...by appointing yourself my corrector and naming me propogater of bad advice...when your facts were in error and even now you say you told me to stop telling people something I never actually said. But enough verbal fencing. I was only trying to be helpful, and just did not understand why instead of (like Billyjim) saying hey, cool you shared what you could you instead chose to jump on a soapbox and pick apart technical details of what I said (like oooh, gasp, getting a company name confused with a product name, which apparently make me a very bad man indeed..shame on me). In the end you are right on this account, it's a casual game and a friendly forum, and there is little need for this kind of ongoing gripe session. So maybe take a look at your overall posts? Because I see this often in what you write, and frankly I am not impressed.

 

The thing is, you did say it. Not in that post, but previous ones. Like here: Link

And I've seen more people mention that they have tried it in their requests for support since you've mentioned it. So I countered it. That's all. Not in the ideal place, but other threads were locked.

Confusing a name doesn't make you a bad person (really, your exaggeration isn't helping your case), it makes it seem like you don't know what you're talking about, especially combined with the above, which makes your advice seem less sound. That's just a fact. You didn't originally state that you got them mixed up; you edited it after, which just makes you seem even less credible. Of course, we can't verify what it said before now, probably, so it doesn't matter. I didn't even see that edit when I was responding, since I managed to catch the post immediately. I see it now since your contradicting what I read before, which is no-longer there. That's probably the only reason I'm replying again. And yes, I edited my post too, to make it more readable as I was in a hurry assuming this would get locked, which it should. It should probably be deleted, since this is only relevant to you. I'd rather have not brought this up like this, but the way the forum works gives me little choice since we can't PM.

Yeah, I am rather brusque in my manner of speaking, and I'm well aware that people are often put-off by it, but I seem to get likes and friend requests from people I don't even know anyway, so obviously some people get me. I don't make a lot of posts since I have other things to do, so I'm well aware that when I do post, it's often because of something on the negative side that I feel needs attention. This isn't a summary of my character.

Looks to me like you're doing a lot of form over substance yourself, nit-picking on my use of 'thing' and 'inexistent' and even 'argument', for example. Your burger analogy fails. I'm not saying you don't have a CPU. Let me clarify; I wasn't intending to quarrel with you. I'm not even angry. Maybe look at your own posts too, or another look at mine, because I really think you misunderstand me.

 

At least you do admit to your flaws as well, which reinforces my good opinion of you. I think we both had valid points, and both had things wrong. Am content to let it rest at that. I get brusque when defending myself, and for that I apologize. I guess what made me most upset is I was not advising or telling anybody to do anything, rather just trying to say "I found this out and maybe it's part of the problem overall". But, water under the bridge as they say. Misunderstanding can happen both ways, you know. Happy gaming

 

The next time you two decide to have a verbal death match let us know so we all can have snacks ready for the main event.
Now you two virtually shake hands and go have a beer at the beer garden and send me the bill. Assuming you can get into your cities that is

 

Well said, and gladly accepted. Second round is on me. Third round I'll buy and we can actually drink that one. P.S. Not trying to be a jerk, just reinforcing that misunderstandings happen on both ends; just got an email from support (Lee) confirming the team advised my problem was indeed a communication issue between the Germany and US servers, which is exactly what I was trying to say about my screenshots and the html stuff. Boils down to the US server was forbidding access and the gateway was looping and failing. Only saying because one reason people feel attacked and brusquely defend themselves would be when they pretty much know they are right and someone discounts what they say because of petty semantics.

 

Those being flaws is debatable, but otherwise I agree. Not like I'm flawless, anyway.

Just to clarify, I was never saying you were wrong about the server/html stuff.

Anyway, I'd gladly buy a round too. If you're in the U.S., good beer must be rare.

 

Always happy to buy a round and let bygones be bygones ... and good beer exists in the US, we call it "imported". Also just to clarify, it was phrasing like "hard to take you seriously", "misinformation", "bad advice", "hard to believe you know what you're talking about", and the paragraph discussing why doctype html, html5, was not likely the cause of my log in issue (when it turned out to be exactly that and much more besides)...that makes it look like exactly what you were saying is I was wrong about what I was saying. So while I am all for friendly relations and open expression, I am also for owning up to what I say or do because that is honorable and right.

 

Microbreweries are making a comeback, just have to look.

Most of those words applied to PC maintenance, not loin problems. Same post, different issues, and possibly confusing. And I never said it wasn't likely the cause, but that I thought it was unlikely that alone would be the cause as far as I could tell, and unless I'm entirely missing something, we still don't know for certain if that had anything to do with it. Nothing has been publicly verified.

 

Well, I have stated that via my support ticket it has been confirmed there was an issue between the Germany and US servers causing inability to access the game. Believe me, I have stared at code lines for a day and a half now. My understanding is the gateway is looping and timing out, mostly because there is missing coding and partly because there is coding error failing to properly list the subdomain relative to the domain in the CSS. Yeah, already going to admit my wording is likely lousy and confusing...but looking at the code, and having it explained by a CIT tech, it's easy to understand. Essentially, the server won't let the game run because the coding requisites are not being met. Additionally, there are Java script and Adobe Flash issues affecting the display. Much of this seems limited to the US area. The mod in Australia sees nothing wrong when he accesses my account; but he, like you, is outside the affected server, so your screens simply would not show that error (I presume) or at least it would not affect your access to the game? I never said I or my tech had all the answers, just some helpful information. Now, time for a couple o' Guinness pints....................